Inspiration Turn 3 results

[undyingking]

The Tom Cruise one! The correct question was #4, "Which Hollywood actor was born Thomas Mapother?"

These were the eligible players:

bateleur
bibliogirl
fractalgeek
jiggery_pokery
liriselei
mooism
nickeyb
queenortart
wimble

of whom nobody got the right question.

On that note though, I've been thinking that it would be fairer if you still got a point for correctness if you choose one of the questions that's equivalent to the correct one, what do people reckon?

The "people's choice" vote is a runaway for liriselei, with 4 votes for this one: "Which former Franciscan seminary student told us to Respect the cock! in a floral 90s movie?" So a point earned there!

As for voting for others, it's 1 for fractalgeek, 1 for mooism, a mighty 3 for nickeyb, and 1 for queenortart. Making the scores as follows:

7/2 dr_bob
3/1 nickeyb
3/3 bibliogirl
2/2 brixtonbrood
1/1 ar_gemlad
2/3 wimble
2/3 fractalgeek
2/3 queenortart
1/2 mooism
1/3 liriselei

I'm planning to do 10 turns of this and then stop -- otherwise we'll all get bored to death, I suspect? So it's still all to play for!

Comments

[wimble.livejournal.com]

In answer to your proposed rule change, of course it's fairer if the question is "equivalent" to the correct one. However, that only holds if it gains me more points than it gains my competition.

More to the point: is Q.1 in the "Silvester" set equivalent to Q.s 4, 5, 6? Clearly they've got the same intent? And if Q.4 (for example) is the official correct answer, then those people who vote for Q. 5 or 6 get a point, and the proposers of those questions don't?

I suspect the original game must have a rule to cover this, along the lines of those people who propose the correct question score a point anyway, and their proposals are not returned for voting (they may also not get a vote, since they know the correct answer, but that's hard to arrange in a face-to-face game).

[undyingking.livejournal.com]

is Q.1 in the "Silvester" set equivalent to Q.s 4, 5, 6?

Yes. (I would decide this arbitrarily on a case-by-case basis.)

if Q.4 (for example) is the official correct answer, then those people who vote for Q. 5 or 6 get a point, and the proposers of those questions don't?

The proposers of those questions would still get a point (for being voted for) as normal. The only change is that those who voted for them would also get a point as if they had voted for #4.

I suspect the original game must have a rule to cover this

It maybe should, but it doesn't. Partly because it's intended for many fewer people, but also because people have to compose questions immediately off the top of their heads, rather than being able to research them -- so most of the questions are made-up incorrect ones a la Call my Bluff, rather than variations on a set of correct answers as we see here.

[fractalgeek.livejournal.com]

Having equivalents is difficult - you either bar later versions of the same question - which then either requires (1a) moderation or (1b) a single version being posted, followed by points cross-allocation or splitting; or (2) you are encouraging people to vote for different versions of their own answer (which is what I was trying to do on the first round).

Capital used to run a "top 100" tracks competition, where you entered your 3 top tracks, but you were only eligible to win if you matched the top 3. This made the top boring and predictable. Voting for cool answers, or something you haven't thought of is good, so my vote is for (1b)

[undyingking.livejournal.com]

What I was planning was just to offer for voting, without comment or moderation, all variations on the same question just as at present. Then anyone who votes for any of the set that I've decided are equivalent to my one gets a point for being right.

My expectation is that all the questions set will be at least verifiably true, so if as in the Silvester case there are several for New Year's Eve and several for Tweety-Pie, there's no basis for someone who's eg. suggested a Tweety one themselves to assume that one of the other Tweety ones must be the "correct" answer. So I'm not sure (2) is a big danger, unless human nature overcomes reason... which it might of course!

It would be a better game if it more encouraged people to come up with a question that no-one else had, but I think that would require a more fundamental redesign. I did consider splitting a la your (1b) to encourage variation, but I don't think it would be a srtong enough effect, because people are likely to earn more points from convincing others to vote for them than they are for being right themselves, so there's a premium on submitting a question that you think will be very similar to mine.

[liriselei.livejournal.com]

ah, the enduring popularity of farmyard fowl ! <grin>
anyone who hasn't seen Magnolia should go see it now.
right this very minute <nodnod>