Things that have diverted me lately
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Just a roundup of a few things which caught my eye / attention, and which other people might find similarly diverting.
When I went to university I was surprised to find that the Black Caucus group welcomed people of South Asian (Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan) descent as well as people of African or Afro-Caribbean descent. It seemed to me a regrettably loose definitiion to say that because we all have darker skin than Caucasians, we are all in some sense "black". (It may have been because at my university there were hardly any actually black people, but loads of South Asians.)
It's sometimes disconcerting when reading Pepys's diary and seeing him talk about the black woman who lives round the corner, etc, that in his day that description just meant that she had dark hair, in the same way you'd speak of a blonde woman. I guess an actual black person would have been described as a Moor.
On a related note, continuing the ramble, T was recently told at a diversity training event that to describe people from China, Malaysia, Japan etc generically as "Oriental" was considered insensitive. Apparently the thinking is (a) it covers some very different countries, cultures and ethnicities, and it shows callousness to lump them all in together under one adjective; and (b) suppose though that you don't know where they're from in any more detail, and so have to use a generic word, "Oriental" is historically associated with harmful ethnic stereotypes and slurs relationg to Fu Manchu, opium dens, cunning Oriental devils, etc -- a better because less value-laden term for such people is "East Asian". This was new to me, but I guess it kind of makes sense.
- Word Strips, a Flash game of spotting cobinations of lettert aht form words, quickly. There are loads of games like this about, but this is a nice realization and the scoring mechanism is pleasingly straightforward. Also, it's too difficult to be a real time-eater. My best is about 300...
- The Slingshot -- "the Great British Paper for Young Chaps. Its watchwords are Patriotism, Clean Living and Fair Play... Immerse yourself in the healthy, hearty pages of The Slingshot and you will soon understand why it is that the sun never goes down on the British without asking permission first." Very much in the tradition of Ripping Yarns. Not truly brilliant, but with some good bits, especially the adverts.
- When cake-icing software goes wrong. Poor Aunt Elsa, I bet she ends up getting the slice with the code fragment.
- Did you know that Unicode incluides the Hebrew Alternative Plus Sign, for people who find the normal one looks a bit too much like a cross? I didn't.
When I went to university I was surprised to find that the Black Caucus group welcomed people of South Asian (Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan) descent as well as people of African or Afro-Caribbean descent. It seemed to me a regrettably loose definitiion to say that because we all have darker skin than Caucasians, we are all in some sense "black". (It may have been because at my university there were hardly any actually black people, but loads of South Asians.)
It's sometimes disconcerting when reading Pepys's diary and seeing him talk about the black woman who lives round the corner, etc, that in his day that description just meant that she had dark hair, in the same way you'd speak of a blonde woman. I guess an actual black person would have been described as a Moor.
On a related note, continuing the ramble, T was recently told at a diversity training event that to describe people from China, Malaysia, Japan etc generically as "Oriental" was considered insensitive. Apparently the thinking is (a) it covers some very different countries, cultures and ethnicities, and it shows callousness to lump them all in together under one adjective; and (b) suppose though that you don't know where they're from in any more detail, and so have to use a generic word, "Oriental" is historically associated with harmful ethnic stereotypes and slurs relationg to Fu Manchu, opium dens, cunning Oriental devils, etc -- a better because less value-laden term for such people is "East Asian". This was new to me, but I guess it kind of makes sense.
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Date: 2007-01-29 04:23 pm (UTC)And frankly, why be so sensitive about it? Claim back the plus sign! Plus pride!
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Date: 2007-01-29 05:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-01-29 05:25 pm (UTC)(I wonder if St Andrew is particularly sensitive about the multiplication sign?)
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Date: 2007-01-29 06:48 pm (UTC)When I was at primary school, we used to sing the black and white song which, being seven, we thought nothing of: after all, the board was black, the chalk was white, the children were also (more or less, if you weren't too pedantic about the actual shades of brown/cream/pink etc) black and white (certainly we were as close to black and white as the daisies were to silver and the dandelions to gold!). So it was just another song.
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Date: 2007-01-30 09:37 am (UTC)And of course there's ebony and ivory, which sit together in perfect harmony side by side on my piano keyboard.
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Date: 2007-01-30 08:51 pm (UTC)There is a very good book called The Wibbly Wobbly Tooth about a little boy who learns from his friends about their various superstitions about what to do with teeth (particularly nice in that the protagonist is Chinese so his cultural whatsit is shown as the default, good for Chinese kids of course, but very good for WASP kids to give a real sense that other people's traditions are exactly as valid as one's own, and not just curios) which does it for me - but using it as the basis for my analogy does reduce all religious belief to the level of the tooth fairy.......
Left to my own devices the word "magic" does tend to creep into the discussion - which is not too bad a tactic actually as Small knows exactly what that means (Just A Story), but it's unlikely to get her into too much trouble in the playground (though it might get her marked down a tad in citizenship classes).
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Date: 2007-01-31 09:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-01-29 06:35 pm (UTC)I had to change manage a change on the ethnic apperance codes of the police system I once worked on, to change 'Oriental' to 'Chinese, Japanese or other East Asian'. It was a lot more effort than one supposes.
Note this is ethnic apperance (the IC codes, you may hear occasionally on the bill), not ethnicity, which is a self defined code, and something quite different.
You may have a North European Apperance (IC1) but self define yourself as ethnically Jamaican.
And it's an important distinction... how someone looks is important for identification, whereas someone's ethnicity is maybe be about how you deal with them.
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Date: 2007-01-30 03:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-01-31 10:20 am (UTC)Thats a bit odd, as PDFs (personal description forms) should be completed by the interviewing officer, during the interview. They are quite notorious for being wildly different from reality, mostly as it's hard to describe someone consistently.
I've seen PDF's for a missing person (well actually one of my colleagues doing a training exercise) vary quite wildly from what I'd describe him as. At least a self description checked by one person could be reasonably relaible.
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Date: 2007-01-31 12:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-01-29 07:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-01-29 08:09 pm (UTC)OMAHA, Nebraska (AP) -- Officials disciplined students who papered their nearly all-white high school with posters advocating a white student from South Africa for the school's "Distinguished African American Student Award."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/01/22/king.controversy.ap/
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Date: 2007-01-30 10:57 am (UTC)