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undyingking ([personal profile] undyingking) wrote2009-01-20 09:30 am
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If you're reading this in English

Interesting post in [livejournal.com profile] languagelog about a bumper sticker saying "If you can read this, thank a teacher. And if you're reading it in English, thank a soldier."

I won't reiterate the discussion there1 -- but I wondered if anyone had seen this sentiment expressed in the UK, where it would make a lot more sense as a proposition, in relation to WWII2. Has anyone in the UK seen or heard of the teachers' message being added to / hijacked in this way?




1 Except to say that I favour the "ill-thought-out generalized right-wing puffery" theory.
2 Of course one might argue that Battle of Britain aircrew, naval convoys, or Russians, were more to thank, but leave that for now.

[identity profile] zenithed.livejournal.com 2009-01-20 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
AFAIK the Nazis had a fair amount of respect for the British, both racially and culturally (in so far as they saw any difference between the two), and would have avoided war if it were possible to do so without impeding their plans for Eastern Europe.

I guess it would depend on how easily the UK fell under the yoke - if it was a well behaved satellite state then I suspect they would have been happy to leave it as such, but I'm certainly no expert and it's impossible to say how things might have gone if they had indefinite time and opportunity at their disposal.

Anyway, have you heard about this? A film coming out later this year with the tagline "In 1945 the Nazis went to the Moon. In 2018 they are coming back": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Sky

[identity profile] thecesspit.livejournal.com 2009-01-20 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this comment...

The comment kind of fails to see World War 2 in context apart from choosing 'winners' and 'losers'.

We should be thanking the Russian speaking soldiers who died on the East Front if you want to think of it like that. By the time the US started showing up with soldiers (rather than lend lease, equipment, naval and air help), the war was really about the Eastern front and the Germans and Italians were being pushed out of North Africa, the home islands had weathered the Blitz. In the Pacific it's a different story and the huge naval prescence the US had was started to have an effect much earlier.

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2009-01-20 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, see my note [2] above re Russians. Western under-appreciation of what happened on the Eastern Front is one of my pet peeves.

[identity profile] thecesspit.livejournal.com 2009-01-20 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I missed yer footnote :) I suspected you knew what I wrote anyways.

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2009-01-20 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds a must-see! -- excellent idea.