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undyingking ([personal profile] undyingking) wrote2007-10-26 07:16 pm
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Mac Mail

Does anyone out there use Mac Mail, and could help me with (a) some information and (b) a test?

[identity profile] zandev.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't use it regularly, but I do have Mac Mail and a .mac account, so I could help.

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Aha, great, thanks!

First, the information, then: I have a guy who wants to mail out (using Mac Mail) a page of HTML I've made for him, in such a way that it appears in suitably-equipped readers' inboxes as just a lovely piece of HTML email with graphics embedded etc, and nothing having been turned into attachments. How can he do that? -- is there a mail-composition interface into which he can just paste the raw HTML code, or something like that?

[identity profile] dr-bob.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
the preferences-viewing option has a tickbox saying "display remote images in html messages" Does that do what you want? Generally Mail displays html fine for me, except from Virgin Media, for some reason.

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, you already have.

No, to be clear, I don't require this guy with Mail to be able to view HTML. What I want is for him to be able to mail out HTML.

[identity profile] dr-bob.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
as I understand, it's html you've written? could you mail it to him and get him to forward it? I'm not much of an html user but could try any sample files you send me and email them back to you. Meanwhile, I'll read the help pages...

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately I don't have an HTML-friendly mail client myself, so I can only send it to him as an attachment -- and then when he forwards that on, it stays as an attachment.

What I would ideally like is for him to instead be able to open my attachment, paste its contents into a new HTML email that he composes, and then send it out just as is.

[identity profile] zandev.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm, I'm not sure how to do this in Mac Mail. There is an option for viewing the raw source of html mail, but apparently only for incoming messages.

[identity profile] zandev.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, as a further update:

It looks like Mac Mail does a pretty good job if you just select a web page then copy-and-paste it into your mail message.

This isn't quite what you requested, but might do with some experimentation.

(This is using Mac Mail on the new Mac OS that came out today...)

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
if you just select a web page then copy-and-paste it

Does that pick up the properties of the <body> tag eg. background colour, can you tell? And embedded <style> info?

[identity profile] zandev.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
If you want to give it a test, you could send it to me, and I could try to send it back to you by Mac Mail.

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, great, thanks! I've just now emailed it to your hotmail address as an attachment.

[identity profile] zandev.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I've mailed it back.

Sadly, I've not yet found a way of getting the background colour right though.

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2007-10-27 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Brilliant, OK, that came through nicely with the image properly inline. We can live without the background colour if everything else is OK. Thank you!

Now can you please give me a naive-user description of how you created that mail, starting from the attachment that I mailes you, that I can pass on to this guy?

[identity profile] dr-bob.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I use it at home and work, as does Cuthbertcross. Her pooter is a newfangled intel one. Mine's an old G4. Both OSX.4

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2007-10-26 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Great! Can you answer the question I posed [livejournal.com profile] zandev above?