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Just in case this is of interest to anyone, I've been looking into the practicalities of using a Gmail account as a backup device. I was thinking it could be quite useful to be able to store copies of key stuff on Google's servers, 2GB is plenty of space to hold all I need to keep, and it ought to be straightforward and painless to keep the backup up-to-date via ADSL line.

Obviously you don't want to be emailing yourself myriads of files on a daily basis, that wouldn't be very practical. A usable solution is going to be one that treats the Gmail account as a filesystem, ie. you can just drag and drop the files you want to backup onto it. I've been told that this is contrary to Google's terms of use (although I can't find the relevant clause if so), but I've not heard of them actually objecting.

I've been looking at two different pieces of software that do this, RoamDrive and Gmail Drive. Both are free.

Gmail Drive is very smoothly integrated with Windows Explorer -- after you install it, it just appears as an extra drive under your 'My Computer'. You can then just drag and drop files to it exactly as you would to any other drive. It won't let you upload files larger than 10 MB (which is a Gmail limitation), or with filenames longer than 40 characters, or of certain extensions (.exe and .zip among them). If you're copying a load of files and it hits one that's illegal under these rules, the whole process stops: and there's no 'no to all' option when asked if you want to replace identical files, so incremental backups are a bit of a pain. There are versions for Mac and Linux, but I haven't looked at them.

RoamDrive is not integrated into Explorer, but has its own window into which you can drag and drop stuff. It has no file size limit, and no restrictions on filename length or extensions -- this is because basically it performs some sort of tarring and zipping operation on your whole requested transfer, and then breaks it up into chunks before uploading. This is very clever but does mean that when you want to see what files are on the backup, it takes ages to produce a list, presumably because it has to download a good deal of it to find out. It also fails extremely frequently during upload, and a partial upload is unusable -- you have to start the whole thing again. On the plus side it works with Hotmail accounts as well as Gmail ones. But on the minus, it carries adverts, including some nasty popunders.

To be honest I don't think I can wholly recommend either of these products, if like me you typically want to back up an entire project folder containing a mix of large and small files of different types. Gmail Drive's restrictions I find a bit too restrictive, and I have to use a third-party directory-comparison tool to manage incremental backups, which is a pain. RoamDrive would be good except that it fails far too often -- that's the main thing really, the rest I could live with. Probably though if you only want to back up a small number of files of smallish size, either owuld be fine. Well, they're both under development, so who knows, maybe the magic solution is out there somewhere. Or maybe Google will kill this whole practice at their end...

Date: 2006-03-23 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wimble.livejournal.com
Hmm... There ought to be money to be made from this.

After all, I can buy a 250 gig drive from work for 72 quid. And on that, I could supply the backup needs for 125 users of your storage requirements. Say 10 quid per person, per year? (which is probably vastly underestimating the market!)

Nice little earner there. Bandwidth might be an issue though...

Date: 2006-03-23 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bateleur.livejournal.com
I've considered backing up to GMail in the past, but it's really only good for short-term backups since we never know when GMail might decide to clamp down on this sort of thing.

Date: 2006-03-23 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicarage.livejournal.com
You are welcome to put data on my machine, as I've a shiny new 250Gb disk only half full, and plenty of bandwidth. That way your data would be safe from a 1km dinosaur killer which could happily blat you, [livejournal.com profile] bibliogirl and [livejournal.com profile] wimble. Access through ssh. I'd use rsync from Unix, you can do
something similar from Windows, keeping the 2 directories in sync, only transferring changes.

I do this to [livejournal.com profile] alexmc's machine, so my photos are safe from a Norad strike.

Date: 2006-03-23 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jvvw.livejournal.com
Amazon have recently started doing something similar but I haven't looked into it properly. In particular it could have be US-only or have a minimum amount that you have to pay per month which becomes unreasonable.

similar but for pop3 accounts too

Date: 2006-09-07 11:39 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
For those that are looking programs for using Gmail as online storage,
check out Vombato Mail Drive which now has GMail support. It also allows
you to use any of your POP3 account the same way.

http://www.vombato.com/

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